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WirralWally
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« on: October 15, 2009, 09:24 PM »

I've had a superb crop of leeks this year. The best I've ever grown.
I was studying, and drooling over, them today when I noticed a few had taken the fancy of some critter that had been busy devouring large chunks of the leaves.
Down amongst the leaves, near the shaft, I found that each damaged leek contains one slug and one caterpillar.

This is typical of the leaf damage:


Here's the caterpillar seen from above:


Here's the caterpillar, showing his underside, along with his mate, Mr Slug.


Can anyone identify the caterpillar?
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Salmo
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2009, 09:40 AM »

This is a caterpillar of one of the dart moths, probably the heart and dart moth or garden dart moth. These will burrow into the soil soon and pupate there until Spring. The moth will emarge and lay its eggs in the soil. The caterpillars are commonly called cutworms due to their habit of chewing seedlings off at ground level. They live in the soil and come out at night to feed. Mostly they are not a pest but sometimes they appear in great numbers.

The slug is a slug.
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savbo
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2009, 01:29 PM »

interesting that Wirralwally found both in each affected plant... slugs tracking down the smell from the damaged tissue?
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Steve.B
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2009, 06:07 PM »

So it looks like green poo from Mr Cat, I rest my case!! Mr slug is free to have a beer. biggrin
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WirralWally
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2009, 08:33 PM »

Thanks Salmo,

I have researched Dart Moth caterpillars (Cutworms) and am satisfied that is the correct identification.
However, I can't agree with your statement that "they are not a pest".
Apart from the damage they are doing to my leeks I'm sure that it is the cutworm that's responsible for chewing off the stalks of my turnips and earlier having chewed through the stems of some sweetcorn just above soil level.

I went on safari today and removed 46 of them, at various stages of growth, from between the leaves of leeks. Anyone watching would probably have thought that I had taken leave of my senses; fishing them out from the depths with a pair of chopsticks.
They were deposited on the bird table and had all disappeared within an hour.

I also note that they come in a variety of guises but the common feature is the rows of dark dashes along both sides of the back.
Here's some of today's 'crop';

One similar to yesterday:


A selection of the others:


I hereby officially declare war on both cutworms and slugs.
Birds please note that WirralWally's patch is the place to be for a first class spread.
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Salmo
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2009, 08:57 PM »

As I said, sometimes they appear in great numbers, then they are a pest.
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Learner
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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2009, 01:22 AM »

Nasty little devils - chop-stcks sounds a great idea. I usually tackle things like these with a very fine paint brush and a jam-jar.

Take care where you plonk them - I discovered they can climb out of an old bath full of water. Are you sure the birds are finding them and they are not doing a quick get-away while your back is turned!  Angry
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Comfortably Numb
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2009, 07:21 AM »

I've found a few of these on my leeks this year too. First time I've had them on leeks. After getting through rust and leek moth, the poor old leeks must wonder what's going on.
Still, they're all growing through it  smile
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2009, 09:08 PM »

Even though I watered them my leeks looked far less healthy this year until the first lot of wet weather arrived - now they are almost good enough to eat!  Wink

I've no idea why but the ones we've tried so far are so much sweeter this year than last..... usually the flavour improves once the frost has arrived.
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mumofstig
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2009, 09:53 PM »

Some of my leeks are looking decidedly tempting but I'm trying to leave them till it's really winter smile
Got to munch my autumn cabbage first biggrin
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2009, 09:56 PM »

Some of my leeks looked too tempting.

They ended up in a harvest festival display.

That'll teach them!

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